TI-People's Republic of China izoba yiDolobha elizosingatha lo mqhudelwano UNWTO I-General Assembly. Amazwe angamakhulu namashumi amahlanu nesikhombisa, izinhlangano ezisebenzisanayo ezingaphezu kwamakhulu amahlanu kanye namakhulukhulu emithombo yezindaba emhlabeni wonke azohlangana kuleli dolobha elihle laseShayina kulo Mhlangano Jikelele wokuqoka ozongenela ukhetho lwaseGeorgia uMnu Zurab Pololikashivili efuna isiqiniseko kuMhlangano Jikelele ozongena esikhundleni sikaDkt. Taleb Rifai . Ungqongqoshe wezokuvakasha kanye nemboni yezokuvakasha eZimbabwe uzohola ithimba elinamandla amakhulu elizobamba iqhaza kulo mhlangano wokhetho. Umhlangano wokugcina wokuqoka okhethweni ubanjwe yiZimbabwe neZambia ngo-2013 lapho uNobhala Jikelele ophumayo uDkt. Taleb Rifai wagunyazwa ngazwi linye ukuthi athathe ihlandla lakhe lesibili nelokugcina, ngokwesekwa ngokungananazi komngane wakhe wakudala uDkt. Mzembi ohola iqembu i-ajenda yezinguquko yemithetho efanayo eyaqinisekisa u-Rifai. Isikhundla seZimbabwe sihambelana lesifiso sayo sokudinga ukuguqulwa kwenhlelo zeUN, okugoqela ukuguqulwa kwenhlanganiso yeUnited Nations kanye lokwakhiwa kweSecurity Council lapho uMongameli Mugabe esekela ukufakwa kweZihlalo ezimbili zePermanent for Africa. Ngabe uMzembi uzophumelela nge-ajenda yakhe yezinguquko kwesinye sezakhiwo ze-UN Systems? Sihlangane naye eNdlunkulu Yezokuvakasha ukuze uthole ulwazi oluthe xaxa ngalokhu….

Ngaphambi kwe-22^nd UNWTO I-General Assembly izobanjelwa e-Chengdu, e-China kusukela ngomhlaka-11^th ukuze 16^th kaSeptemba 2017, ithini i-Ajenda ye-Afrika kuloMhlangano Omkhulu?

Lo Mhlangano Jikelele ungowokuqokwa njengoba ulingana nama-20^th Umhlangano obubanjelwe eVictoria Falls naseLivingstone owawubanjwe yiZimbabwe neZambia ngo-2013 wawungowokuthi unikeze uNobhala Jikelele ophumayo ihlandla lakhe lesibili. Lo Mkhandlu Kazwelonke ufuna ukuqinisekisa ngokuvota kukaNobhala Jikelele Okhethiwe, uMnu Zurab Pololikashivili, ophume esikhundleni esiphezulu ku-2.^th Umhlangano wesigungu esiphezulu obanjwe ngomhlaka-12^th kaMeyi 2017 eMadrid, eSpain.

I-Ajenda yase-Afrika iqala ngama-60^th Ikhomishini yase-Afrika lapho isilinganiso sethu sezihlalo eziyishumi zoMkhandlu oPhethe sizovela ukuze siphinde sikhethwe phakathi kwethu kanye nokuqashelwa kwamalungu asebenza isikhathi sawo kuze kube ngu-2019.

Kunentshisekelo ekhulayo ezikhundleni zokuqokwa ngamaZwe Angamalungu, lawo esikhathini esidlule abelokhu enganakile kulokhu. Ngiyethemba ukuthi bangasekwa ekufuneni izikhundla.

IZimbabwe isitshengise intshisekelo yokubuyela ku-Executive Council eyasuka kuyo ngo-2013 ukuze igxile ekubeni nguSihlalo weKhomishini ye-Afrika, ngemva kwamahlandla amabili elandelana okugcina ngokuthi iKhomishana yethu ihlezi eChengdu, ePeople's Republic of China. Sizophinde futhi sifune ukuxoxa ngamabomu ngokuvakasha kwezwekazi lase-Afrika njengoba kuqoshwe I-Ajenda Yenhlangano Yezizwe Zase-Afrika yowezi-2063. “I-Afrika Esiyifunayo” kanye nokuqondisa lo mbono ne-Ajenda yezokuvakasha yomhlaba wonke ngaphansi kobuholi obuvela e-Chengdu.

Ithini ngempela i-ajenda yomhlaba wonke kumuntu osemgwaqeni osizwa yilo mkhakha?

Kusakhethwa ukuthi kube kuloMhlangano Omkhulu lapho uNobhala Jikelele eqinisekiswa khona ngevoti lokukhetha. Kodwa ngaphandle kwalokhu, u-2017 ngunyaka okhethekile ngoba okwesithathu eminyakeni engamashumi amahlanu sihlonishwa ngokuqokwa kuka-2017 njengoNyaka Womhlaba Wonke Wezokuvakasha Okuqhubekayo Kwentuthuko futhi sizobe siqhubeka njengeZimbabwe kuMhlangano Wezizwe Ezihlangene ukuze iqhaza ezinhlelweni nasemicimbini ehlobene nalokhu. Izinkinga eziseqhulwini eziye zasimisa esikhathini esidlule zifaka: ezokuvakasha nokuphepha, ukusebenza kwama-SDGs ukuya phambili ku-2030 lapho sinikezwe khona Umgomo ongunombolo 8, 12 kanye no-14, nokho, ukuphambana kwezokuvakasha - kunqamula wonke ama-SDG ayishumi nesikhombisa. Sizophinde sibheke Ikhodi Yokuziphatha Yomhlaba wonke esifuna ukuyiguqula ibe Ingqungquthela. Ngethemba ukuthi lona kuzoba nguMhlangano-jikelele ozocacisa nge-UNGA 2017 ezayo, izinqumo ezizodala ukuqonda nokwesekwa okukhulu kulo mkhakha amandla awo okuthekelisa ngaphandle angakwazi ukwedlula awamafutha namakhemikhali endaweni yokuqala ngokwezinga. Lona umkhakha oqashe abantu abacela ezigidini ezingamakhulu amathathu emhlabeni jikelele, futhi uyisixazululo ekuswelekeni kwemisebenzi. Kithina e-Afrika kubaluleke kakhulu kangangokuthi inselelo yase-Europe, ngokwesibonelo, ngokufuduka ngokungemthetho e-Afrika, ingancishiswa yilesi sithelo esilengayo esinomkhiqizo osuvele usunguliwe wezinto eziphilayo odinga nje "uhlelo lwe-marshal" lohlobo lokukhiqiza umsebenzi owengeziwe. futhi unqande igagasi.

Amanye amazwe athi eleZimbabwe izithakazelela ngokwalo ngokungathokozi kwayo ngezinhlelo zokhetho. Kuthini ukuphawula kwakho ngalokho?

Ngeke kube wukuzicabangela mina ngendlela yokuthi ngibuyele emsebenzini ngemva konyaka owodwa ngihlezi ngisekelwa uhulumeni wami kanye ne-African Union. Empeleni uhulumeni wami ungincomile ngokundizisa phezulu izwe namafulegi ezwekazi ngaphansi kwezimo ezinzima kakhulu. Ngiqashwe ngokugcwele nangenjabulo emkhakheni engiwuthandayo, kodwa olunye lwezimpawu zobuholi beqiniso nobuyiqiniso wukungayilahli inhlangano okucacayo ukuthi igcwele izinselelo zezinguquko. Lokhu kuvezwe phambili ngokubamba kwami iqhaza ezinqubweni zokukhetha engizithwebule ngokufanelekile emibhalweni engiyidlulisele ku UNWTO Ubulungu. Angikaze ngibe ngumuntu siqu - empeleni, ngihalalisele uMnu Zurab Pololikashivili ngokunqoba kwakhe ngaphansi kokuqinisekiswa. Kodwa-ke, lokhu akuphambani nesidingo sokuphenya ngemithetho nezinqubo zethu ukuze siphinde siqinisekise ubuqotho benhlangano. Akukona ukudelela i-Secretariat ebonakala sengathi ihola impi yomuntu siqu ngokumelene nami kanye nezwe lami. Empeleni kuhle ukuthi ifa likaNobhala Jikelele ophumayo liphothule lolu daba ngevoti lokuqinisekisa ukuze uma ligunyazwa, uMnu Zurab Pololikashivili akwazi ukuqala umsebenzi wakhe ngokuzethemba, unembeza ohlanzekile futhi esekela uBulunga UNWTO.

Ngakho-ke lokhu kukushiya kuphi wena nezifiso zakho ozikhethile?

Izinketho zami zihlala zivulekile kunoma yimaphi amathuba nezimo. Khumbulani, lolu wuhlelo olungaphothulwa kuze kube uMkhandlu Kazwelonke uludingida lolu daba, futhi ngethemba ukuthi izithunywa zizozicabangela izikhalo esiziphakamisile ukuze silungise izingqinamba zokhetho. Uma uMnu Zurab Pololikashivili eqinisekisiwe, makube njalo, kodwa sifuna kuqondwe ngokucacile ukuthi asikwazi, futhi akufanele saneliseke ngezinqubo ezingalungile kanye nokucwasa okufanele kulungiswe ekuqaleni.
Ngizohlala ngiyisithunzi sakhe, futhi ngizovuma ukwabelana naye ngolwazi lwami, imicabango kanye nombono wami wokuziphendukela kwemvelo kwesikhathi esizayo. UNWTO, kanye nokufeza izifiso zethu njengeNhlangano Yamazwe Ase-Afrika eyaxhasa ukungenela kwami ukhetho kulesi sikhundla. Ngakho-ke, ngeke kube nguMzembi – indlovu esendlini nokuyinto okubonakala sengathi i-Secretariat iphakamisa. Uma uMnu. Zurab Pololikashivili ehluleka ukuthola ivoti leningi lezingxenye ezimbili kwezintathu, uMkhandlu oPhethe kumele ucabange ngokujulile nangokucophelela mayelana nendlela engcono kakhulu eya phambili yenhlangano nezokuvakasha emhlabeni jikelele. Ngiqophe umlando ngokuthi, izinqubo zokhetho zibuyela lapho kwenzeka khona amaphutha kanye nokucwasa, okwalimaza umphumela. Mangisho nje akuqiniseki ukuthi ngizoba khona mina ukuze ngibambe iqhaza kunoma yikuphi ukuqhutshwa kabusha okulandelayo. Kuyishwa elikhulu ukuthi iHhovisi likaNobhala engisebenze nalo cishe iminyaka eyishumi alikakwazi ukungiqonda kanye nezimiso engizimelelayo naphezu kwezisho zabo zobungane - lokhu akuphathelene nami, kumayelana nenhlangano yethu nobuqotho bayo.

Mhlonishwa uphuthelwe ukunqoba ngamavoti amabili okusho ukuthi ubesekwe kakhulu ngisho udlulela ngale kwe-Afrika. Imuphi umlayezo onawo kulabo abakusekayo?

Nokho, emzuliswaneni wokuqala ezokuvakasha zawina futhi indoda ehamba phambili yathwala usuku. Emuva kwalokho, ezinye izici zangena kwi-equation futhi kwakungasewona umbono ongcono kakhulu, indlela ebanzi kunazo zonke eya phambili yezokuvakasha zomhlaba wonke eyayimelwe ubuholi bomkhankaso wami. Konke lokhu kudale ukwesekwa okukhulu, okuhlanganisa namazwe angaphandle kwezwekazi lase-Afrika. Ake ngithathe leli thuba ngibonge wonke lawo mazwe ngokungeseka kwawo kanye nesikhuthazo sawo, futhi ngiwaqinisekise ukuthi noma yini engase yenzeke e-Chengdu, ukuzibophezela kwami kwezokuvakasha emhlabeni jikelele kusalokhu kungenakubekezelelwa. Ngizosebenza ngokuzimisela ukuze ngiqinisekise ukuthi umbono wami wenguquko uyavela kunoma yimuphi umphumela. Ngimele isizukulwane esisha sobuholi obusiqondisile isidingo soguquko, amathuba alinganayo kanye nokwenza intando yeningi ezikhungweni ezasungulwa ukuze zisebenzele isintu.