- Umengameli wase-Afghanistan u-Ashraf Ghani ushiye i-Afghanistan ngesikhathi iTaliban ivala iKabul, ngokusho kwesikhulu esiphezulu sezingxoxo zokuthula kuleli u-Abdullah Abdullah.
- I-Al Jazeera TV ibisakaza izindaba ezikhethekile ezivela ngaphakathi esigodlweni ikhombisa iTaliban FIghters ehleli ehhovisi likamongameli eKabul
- The Inxusa laseMelika eKabul ifundisa ama-cirizens aseMelika ngemibiko yesikhumulo sezindiza iKabul yayishile. Iseluleko sabantu baseMelika siswele e-Afghhanistan ukuze sikhosele
I-Islamic Emirate yase-Afghanistan izomenyezelwa yiTaliban
Umbuso weTaliban uhlela ukuqamba kabusha i-Afghanistan ibe yi-Islamic Emirate yase-Afghanistan.
Okwamanje i-United States ithumela amasosha angama-6000 ngqo e-Afghanistan, lawa angama-1000 angeziwe ku-5000 asevele esendleleni.
Izintatheli ezibika ngenethiwekhi yezindaba esekwe eQatar Al Jazeera bamenyiwe namuhla ukuvakashela isigodlo sikaMongameli eKabul, e-Afghanistan. AbakwaTaliban Fighters bebemi ehhovisi likamengameli bephethe izibhamu.
Kubukeka kunokwesaba nokwesaba, kepha akukho kuchitheka kwegazi okubikwe eCapital CIty yaseKabul namuhla ngamasosha amaTaliban alawula idolobha ngejubane elikhulu.
It iqale ekuseni ngeSonto, ngo-Agasti 15, futhi yaphela ebusuku. I-Afghanistan isibuyile ngaphansi kolawulo lwamaTaliban ngemuva kweminyaka engama-20 kanti izigidigidi zisebenzisa ukuyikhipha.
Ngasekupheleni kweSonto, kumenyezelwe ukuthi uGhani uselishiyile izwe namalungu amaningi ekhabhinethi lakhe.
“Lowo owayenguMengameli wase-Afghanistan ushiye i-Afghanistan. Usishiyile isizwe sikulesi simo [ngenxa yalokho] uNkulunkulu uzosiphendulela, ”kusho u-Abdullah Abdullah, usihlalo woMkhandlu Ophakeme Wezokubuyisana Kwezwe, kwividiyo efakwe ekhasini lakhe kuFacebook.
Ukuwa kukahulumeni osekelwa yiNtshonalanga eKabul kuza ngemuva kweTaliban blitzkrieg eyaqala ngo-Agasti 6 nokuholele ekubanjweni kwezifundazwe ezingaphezu kuka-XNUMX zase-Afghanistan ngeSonto ekuseni.
UMengameli wase-Afghanistan u-Ashraf Ghani ubalekele e-Afghanistan waya eTajikistan. Lokhu kubhekwa njengokungahloniphi izwe yizakhamizi zase-Afghanistan.
Amazwe asentshonalanga akhungathekile ayatatazela ukukhipha abasebenzi bamanxusa. UNdunankulu wase-UK uBoris Johnson unxusa izizwe ukuthi zingamhloniphi uHulumeni wamaTaliban wase-Afghanistan.
Kunezakhamizi ezingaba ngu-1500 zaseNepal e-Afghanistan. UMnyango Wezangaphandle waseNepal uthe iNepal izama ukwenza amalungiselelo okusiza izakhamizi zayo ukuthi zisuke e-Afghanistan.
IFrance yathuthela inxusa layo esifundeni sezindiza eKabul, kanti imibiko yaseMelika ithi lesi sikhumulo besivutha umlilo futhi savalwa. Osomaqhinga base-EU bathuthelwe ezindaweni ezingadalulwanga.
UMnyango Wezwe wase-US ushicilele le ngxoxo noNgqongqoshe Wezangaphandle wase-US u-Anthony Blinken nge-ABC News
U-Antony J. Blinken, uNobhala Wezwe
Washington, DC
UMBUZO: Manje uNobhala Wezwe uTony Blinken. UNobhala uBlinken, siyabonga ngokujoyina nathi.
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Siyabonga ngokuba nami.
UMBUZO: Ake siqale ngesikhundla senxusa lethu eKabul. Uyaqiniseka ngokuphepha kwabasebenzi baseMelika enxusa njengoba iTaliban izungeza iKabul?
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Lowo umsebenzi kimi, John. Sisebenza ukuqinisekisa ukuthi abasebenzi bethu baphephile futhi bavikelekile. Sithuthukisa abesilisa nabesifazane be-embassy yethu endaweni esikhumulweni sezindiza. Kungakho uMongameli athumele inqwaba yamabutho ukuthi aqinisekise ukuthi, njengoba siqhubeka nokudonsela phansi ubukhona bethu bezenxusa, sikwenza ngendlela ephephile futhi ehlelekile futhi ngasikhathi sinye sigcina ubudlelwano bokuxhumana eKabul.
UMBUZO: Ngakho-ke ake ngenze nje isiqiniseko sokuthi ngikuzwe kahle. Uhambisa izisebenzi enxusa - ngabe lokho kusho ukuthi uvala indawo yenxusa laseMelika eKabul, lelo bhilidi lizoshiywa?
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Njengamanje, uhlelo esilusebenzayo ukuhambisa abasebenzi abasuka enkampanini yamanxusa eKabul bayise endaweni esikhumulweni sezindiza ukuze baqinisekise ukuthi basebenza ngokuphepha nangokuvikelekile, futhi nokuqhubeka nokuba nabantu bashiye i-Afghanistan njengoba besilokhu sikwenza kusukela ngo-Ephreli - ngasekupheleni kuka-Ephreli, Ephreli 28. Besilokhu si-oda ukuhamba kusukela lapho. Sikwenze ngendlela yamabomu. Silungisiwe ngokuya ngamaqiniso aphansi. Kungakho-ke besinamandla lapho uMengameli ebethumele khona ukuzoqinisekisa ukuthi singakwenza lokhu ngendlela ephephile futhi ehlelekile. Kepha inhlanganisela uqobo lwayo - abantu bethu basuka lapho bathuthela esikhumulweni sezindiza.
UMBUZO: Umbhalo wangaphakathi owaphumela kubasebenzi bamanxusa ngoLwesihlanu wayalela abasebenzi baseMelika enxusa ukuthi behlise inani lemininingwane ebucayi kule ndawo, futhi wathi, “Ngicela… nifaka izinto ezinamalogo enxusa noma amafulegi, amafulegi aseMelika, noma izinto ezingasetshenziswa kabi emizamweni yenkulumo-ze. ” Ngokusobala ukukhathazeka lapha ukuthi amaTaliban - futhi lokhu futhi, ngiyacabanga, kungani uthuthela abantu esikhumulweni sezindiza - ukuthi amaTaliban azogxila futhi athathe leso sakhiwo senxusa.
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Le yinqubo yokusebenza ejwayelekile kunoma isiphi isimo esinjalo. Kunezinhlelo ezikhona uma sishiya indawo yenxusa, sifudusela abantu bethu kwenye indawo, ukuthatha zonke lezo zinyathelo, lezo osanda kuzibalula. Ngakho-ke yilokhu kanye ebesizokwenza kunoma yisiphi salezi zimo, futhi futhi, lokhu kwenziwa ngendlela enamabomu, kwenziwa ngendlela ehlelekile, futhi kwenziwa ngamabutho aseMelika lapho ukuqinisekisa ukuthi singakwenza ngendlela ephephile.
UMBUZO: Ngenhlonipho, hhayi okuningi ngalokho esikubonayo kubonakala kuhleleke kakhulu noma inqubo ejwayelekile yokusebenza. Ngenyanga edlule nje, uMongameli Biden uthe ngaphandle kwesimo - futhi kwakungokwakhe - lawo kwakungamazwi akhe - naphansi kwesimo kwakungabasebenzi baseMelika, izisebenzi zamanxusa zisuswa eKabul ngendiza lapho kuphindaphindwa khona izigameko esazibona eSaigon ngo-1975. Ngakho-ke angithi yilokho kanye esikubonayo manje? Ngisho, nezithombe zivusa okwenzekile eVietnam.
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Ake sithathe isinyathelo sokubuyela emuva. Lokhu ngokusobala akuyona iSaigon. Iqiniso lodaba yilokhu: Saya e-Afghanistan eminyakeni engama-20 eyedlule sinenhloso eyodwa, futhi lokho kwakungukubhekana nabantu abasihlasela ngomhlaka 9/11. Futhi lowo msebenzi uphumelele. Saletha uBin Laden enkantolo eminyakeni eyishumi eyedlule; I-al-Qaida, iqembu elasihlasela, linciphe kakhulu. Amandla ayo okusihlasela futhi avela e-Afghanistan abekhona - njengamanje akekho, futhi sizoqinisekisa ukuthi sigcina amandla esifundeni, amabutho adingekayo ukubona noma yikuphi ukuvela kabusha kosongo lwamaphekula futhi ukwazi ukubhekana nayo. Ngakho-ke maqondana nalokho ebesizimisele ukukwenza e-Afghanistan, sikwenzile.
Futhi manje, sonke lesi sikhathi, uMongameli wayenesinqumo esinzima okumele asithathe, futhi leso sinqumo sasimele senziwe ngamabutho asele esasizuza njengefa ngenkathi sifika ehhovisi okwakuse-Afghanistan, nomnqamulajuqu owasungulwa abaphathi bangaphambilini ukubathola iphume ngoMeyi 1. Yiso leso sinqumo asithatha. Sibe se-Afghanistan iminyaka engama-20 - $ 1 trillion, izimpilo zaseMelika ezingama-2,300 zilahlekile - futhi futhi, ngokubonga, siphumelele ukwenza lokho ebesizimisele ukukwenza kwasekuqaleni. UMongameli wenza isinqumo sokuthi sekuyisikhathi sokuqeda le mpi ye-United States, ukuphuma phakathi kwempi yombango e-Afghanistan, nokuqinisekisa ukuthi sibheke izintshisekelo zethu emhlabeni wonke, emhlabeni jikelele, nokuthi sasibekelwe ukuqhubekisela phambili lezo zithakazelo. Yilokho esikwenzayo.
UMBUZO: Kepha uMongameli welulekwe nangabeluleki bakhe abaphezulu bezempi, njengoba ngiyaqonda, ukuthi ashiye ubusosha obuthile ezweni elinamasosha abalelwa ku-3-4,000 ase-US. Ngabe kukhona ukuzisola manje ngokungasithathi leso seluleko, iseluleko sabeluleki bakhe abaphezulu bezempi, ukushiya ubusosha e-Afghanistan?
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Nakhu ukukhetha uMengameli abhekene nakho. Futhi, khumbula ukuthi umnqamulajuqu wasungulwa ngabaphathi bangaphambilini bangoMeyi 1 ukukhipha amabutho ethu asele e-Afghanistan. Futhi umqondo wokuthi besingakwazi ukuqinisa isimo ngokugcina amabutho ethu lapho ngicabanga ukuthi akulungile, ngoba nakhu obekuzokwenzeka uma uMongameli ethatha isinqumo sokugcina lawo mabutho lapho: Ngesikhathi kusuka lapho kufinyelelwa esivumelwaneni kuze kube uMeyi 1, amaTaliban ayeseyekile ukuhlasela amabutho ethu, ayeka ukuhlasela amabutho eNATO. Bekubuye kubambelele kulokhu kucasula okukhulu esikubona manje ukuzama ukuthatha izwe, ukuhambela lezi zinhloko-dolobha zezifundazwe, emasontweni edlule ephumelele ukuzenza.
Woza uMeyi 2, uma uMongameli enquma ukuhlala, wonke amagilavu ngabe awekho. Besizobuyela empini namaTaliban. Babezohlasela amabutho ethu. Sasizoba namandla angaba ngu-2,500 20 noma ngaphezulu asala ezweni ngamandla omoya. Angicabangi ukuthi lokho bekuzokwanela ukubhekana nalokhu esikubonayo, okuyinto ecasulayo ezweni lonke, futhi bengizoba kulolu hlelo kuleso simo mhlawumbe bekufanele ngichaze ukuthi kungani besithumela amashumi ezinkulungwane kuphoqa ukubuyela e-Afghanistan ukuyoqhubeka nempi izwe elikholelwa ukuthi idinga ukuphela ngemuva kweminyaka engama-1, $ 2,300 trillion, kanye nemiphefumulo engu-XNUMX elahlekile, kanye nempumelelo ekufezeni izinhloso esazibekela zona ngenkathi singena kuqala.
UMBUZO: Ake ngikudlalele okuthile uMongameli Biden akusho ekuqaleni kwalonyaka ngenkathi ebuzwa ngamathemba okuthi, empeleni, sibonani njengamanje, ukuthatha kweTaliban i-Afghanistan:
"Mancane kakhulu amathuba okuthi kube khona amaTaliban ahlasela yonke into futhi aphethe izwe lonke."
Ngakho-ke ingabe wadukiswa izinhlaka zakhe zezobunhloli? Akazange yini abalalele? Kungani ayenephutha kangaka ngalokho?
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Izinto ezimbili. Uthe futhi besishilo sonke isikhathi ukuthi amaTaliban ayesesimweni samandla. Lapho sifika ehhovisi, amaTaliban ayesesikhundleni sawo esiqine kakhulu nganoma yisiphi isikhathi kusukela ngo-2001, ngoba ayengaphansi kwamandla e-Afghanistan ngaphambi kuka-9/11, futhi ekwazile ukwakha amandla ayo kule minyaka embalwa edlule kakhulu indlela ephawulekayo. Ngakho-ke leyo yinto esayibona futhi sayibona kusengaphambili.
Sengikushilo lokho, amabutho ezokuphepha e-Afghan - amabutho ezokuphepha e-Afghan esitshale kuwo imali, umphakathi wamazwe omhlaba utshale imali iminyaka engu-20 - wakha ibutho lama-300,000, ebahlomisa, bemi ngamabutho omoya ababenawo amaTaliban abengenalo - lelo qembu likhombise ukuthi alikwazi ukuvikela izwe. Futhi lokho kwenzeke ngokushesha okukhulu kunalokho ebesikulindele.
UMBUZO: Ngakho-ke lokhu kusho ukuthini ngomfanekiso waseMelika emhlabeni nangenxa yalokho uMongameli Biden akhulume ngakho ngamandla, isidingo sokulwela intando yeningi kanye namagugu entando yeningi, ukusibona siphuma neqembu eliyingozi lingena futhi lithatha amandla efuna ukuvala ilungelo lamantombazane lokuya esikoleni, lokho kubeka amasosha azinikelayo, lokho akulutho ngaphandle kokumelela lezo zimiso zentando yeningi uMongameli Biden athi i-United States kufanele izimele?
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Ngakho-ke ngicabanga ukuthi kunezinto ezimbili ezibalulekile lapha. Okokuqala, ngibuya kulesi siphakamiso sokuthi ngokwalokho ebesizimisele ukukwenza e-Afghanistan - isizathu esasenza kwasekuqaleni, ukubhekana nalabo abasihlasela ngomhlaka 9/11 - siphumelele ukukwenza lokho. Futhi lowo mlayezo ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele ukhale kakhulu.
Kuyiqiniso futhi ukuthi akukho lutho esincintisana nabo ngamasu emhlabeni jikelele abangafuna ngaphezu kokubona sibanjwa kanzima e-Afghanistan eminye iminyaka emihlanu, eyishumi, noma engamashumi amabili. Lokho akulona ilungelo lesizwe.
Enye into nansi: Uma sibheka abesifazane namantombazane, bonke labo asebenempilo esithuthukile, lokhu kuyasha. Kuyinto enzima. Ngihlangane nenqwaba yalaba baholi besifazane abenzele izwe labo okuningi nabesifazane namantombazane e-Afghanistan kule minyaka engama-20 edlule, kufaka phakathi muva nje ngo-Ephreli ngenkathi ngiseKabul. Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi manje sekuyisibopho emphakathini wamazwe omhlaba ukuthi wenze konke okusemandleni ukusebenzisa wonke amathuluzi esinawo - ezomnotho, ezombusazwe, ezepolitiki - ukuzama ukuxhasa izinzuzo abazenzile.
Futhi ekugcineni kungenxa yobugovu bamaTaliban - kufanele bakwenze lokho kuzimisela, kepha kungokwenzuzo yabo uma befuna ukwamukelwa ngokweqiniso, ukwamukelwa emhlabeni jikelele; uma befuna ukwesekwa, uma befuna ukuthi kususwe unswinyo - konke lokho kuzodinga ukuthi basekele amalungelo ayisisekelo, amalungelo ayisisekelo. Uma bengakwenzi futhi uma besesikhundleni samandla futhi bengakwenzi lokho, ngicabanga ukuthi i-Afghanistan izoba yisifundazwe.
UMBUZO: UNobhala Wezwe uTony Blinken, ngiyabonga kakhulu ngokusijoyina namhlanje ekuseni.
UNOBHALA BLINKEN: Siyabonga ngokuba nami.
LOKHO ONGAKUTHATHE KULESI SIHLOKO:
- Kungakho uMongameli ethumele inqwaba yamabutho ukuze aqinisekise ukuthi, njengoba siqhubeka nokwehlisa ubukhona bethu bobunxusa, sikwenza ngendlela ephephile nehlelekile futhi ngesikhathi esifanayo sigcina ubukhona bobunxusa obubalulekile eKabul.
- Njengamanje, uhlelo esiluqalayo ukuthutha abasebenzi enkompolo yenxusa e-Kabul baye endaweni esesikhumulweni sezindiza ukuze kuqinisekiswe ukuthi bangakwazi ukusebenza ngokuphepha nangokuvikelekile, nokuqhubeka nokuthi abantu basuke e-Afghanistan njengoba senzile. kusukela ngo-Ephreli - ngasekupheleni kuka-Ephreli, Ephreli 28.
- Ukuwa kukahulumeni osekelwa yiNtshonalanga eKabul kuza ngemuva kweTaliban blitzkrieg eyaqala ngo-Agasti 6 nokuholele ekubanjweni kwezifundazwe ezingaphezu kuka-XNUMX zase-Afghanistan ngeSonto ekuseni.
